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/u/Nazenn

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Wallpaper Album

I ended up doing my usual and going way overboard once I got a smooth workflow down so I made a whole bunch from the last three episodes. So there's now nine to pick through, all in 1920x1080 with a slight sharpen, and a few others have some edits just to make them nicer to look at but I noted what they were in the images in case you wanted to avoid those.

I'll probably update it daily if I find anything wallpaper worthy, but as you can probably tell I like my long shots and environments more than characters so don't expect many of those unless you specifically request one. I'll update these after I watch the next episode, not when the post goes up, so just be aware of that.


I think my final note for the episode covers my first point pretty well:

Yeah, I think they need a touch MORE timing..... YOU"RE ENDING IT THERE?! THERE?! Fuck. Anyway what I was saying was I think they need more warning than half a second before an attack Hitomi

But yeah... In that exact moment is where you decide is a good spot to cut everyone off and make us wait a week day? Goddammit, that was not a big enough cliffhanger to justify the actual usage of a cliffhanger!

That aside, another episode with a very different feel to the last two. I'm not as impressed with it today, but I will agree a lot of what they showed made the episode feel necessary. The culture stuff specifically is starting to feel a bit... muddled. Here we have Samurai, english style knights and fortifications, people searching for Atlantis, and our dragonslayers feel rather roman. Thats a lot of cultures in one show and I'm worried how they'll balance it.


Right off the bat: Found the Shoujo part of the show! I knew it wouldn't stay gone for long, and I have to say I'm not fond of the "fall in love because of a kiss" trope, BUT then I went back and rewatched parts of episode one because of the wallpaper hunting. Hitomi has spent the entire episode mistaking Allen (what a weird name for them to pick) for Amano, and it was Amano she wanted her first kiss from when doing the race with him before a certain chicken dragon interrupted. I think in that context it makes it better because it kinda ties into the whole "confused girl in another world latching onto whatever she can to stay sane" sort of thing.

Also.... I may have absolutely got a little lost on the context of this line for a few seconds and thought the guy was saying that Allen would use THEM to pretend to be his lover to get out of trouble

Whoops

Van is damn lucky that Hitomi happened to be there though to deflect attention from him, otherwise he may very well have died then if the enemy commander took an extra couple of seconds to think why he was being so defensive of the fallen country. She's a bit of an asshole, from beating up her subordinates earlier because they didn't destroy the country efficently enough to the way she just walks around demanding support from other people because she knows they can't deny her. Fuck the commander, she's definitely heading towards hateable.

Allen gets bonus points for having a pet Owl. I want to say its an eastern screech owl but I'm not 100% sure, the features on the owl are pretty common, the marks on the face are seen in most species, its the eye tufts being a light color that makes me inclined to think its a grey Eastern Screech.

In another turn around from the normal state of affairs in these shows though we have Van being told today that he's still not aggressive enough. Normally for these sorts of protagonists its the opposite, being told to slow down and thing and fight more tactically. This time we have a sheer matter of he's not aggressive enough to catch his opponent off guard and its why he keeps getting beaten. I really like the idea of Allen being Balgus' student to perhaps continue to pass on his combat knowledge to Van in a way.

I'm still blown away by the effects and scene transitions they use for all of Hitomi's visions, the reaper coming out of the card today was incredible, along with Van's face breaking through it to wake her up which made me jump. Just perfect.


Random other thoughts

  • The intro to these episodes reminds me of the intro to the Dune mini series episodes. On a bit of a Dune kick at the moment XD

  • Anyone know if the colored characters in the titles mean something specific? Probably a spoiler, but thougt I'd ask

  • Allen's a bit of a dick for correcting the way he addresses Van to NOT call him a king. Gut punch. As in Allen deserves a gut punch for that.

  • The mech battle music today reminded me a bit of the Russian Dervish from Riverdance. Such a wonderful piece of music and I was absolutely biased towards the fight music today because of the association.

  • Floating fortress are always cool as fuck!

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/u/theyawner

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>Alas, Dornkirk, failing to consider that one of the basic desires of the average person is to beat the hell out of the other guy for whatever reason is most convenient. I suspect the reason might be because he couldn't really foresee past the activation of the Atlantis Machine given the shadow Hitomi (and Van/Escaflowne) casts on his Destiny Prognostication Machine. And perhaps like Duke Freid, he had hoped that Gaea would be able to somehow overcome this trial. >Hitomi, as a protagonist, was interesting and fresh. I'm glad that the writers went with a smarter, more average-looking person instead of the stupider but more sexualized one that they originally came up with. This has been the best idea infused into the show's production. >While we're here: [Mecha from the concept which would become *Escaflowne*, and which would later reappear in various other Kawamori projects.](http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/aircavalry/index.htm) I also found more details about the [Escaflowne](http://www.macross2.net/m3/moremecha/escaflowne.htm), [Alseides](http://www.macross2.net/m3/moremecha/alseides.htm), and the [Scherazade](http://www.macross2.net/m3/moremecha/scherazade.htm). They actually gave a lot of thought on the cockpit designs even though they're not really shown that much during the show.
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/u/chilidirigible

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Today, on "Good battery life is a plus!":


Chekhov's Pager.

Just two girls out on a date.

And now, back to the reality of roasted bugs on sticks.

Revenge makes Van the introspective type.

I already made the reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, but here we are again.

Alliances are alliances.

Interesting people just keep on showing up, don't they?

"Mimi o sumaseba/Kasuka ni kikoeru darou—hold on, wrong series."

That'll teach you to wink at a thigh.

"You say that now."

He has that effect, eh?

stare

"Message for you, sir!"

This disables the snake.

Of course it's an Energist.

Those complicated genetics sure are convenient.

To think that I can't get good cel reception at work but this thing reaches across time/space/dimensions/fantasyland.


Hitomi's mind is a busy place, going on a farewell date with Allen who's actually Amano because senpai's been paging her from the home country.

Speaking of pagers, convenient, that thing. To think that we've had about thirty years now for mobile technology to make unexpected noises and/or vibrations in public and complicate everyone's lives.

Which are complicated enough. Allen is absolutely fine with leaving Asturia for his life as the leader of a band of musical cutthroats, as the capital is now increasingly crowded by very small Fulbtzs-Berrentzs motherships and assertive blondes. On top of that, maybe stopping a war.

Van may have levelled the playing field quite a bit by apparently destroying the Energist stockpile. Along the way, there's suddenly actual blood as a result of sword hits, which has been mostly lacking so far aside from Dilandau's face. Totally unsurprisingly, the stone on Hitomi's necklace reacts in the same way as the Energists do. Which is also amusing to comment on in the context of this airing 14 years before Macross Frontier.

Creepy mine boss is creepy. Unnecessarily creepy, even, but at least it put some menace into a character other than Dilandau, who's lost some effectiveness lately due to going over the top.

In any case, Allen is back in action, and we'll see if he goes for trying to stop Zaibach or finding Hitomi first.

...oh right, Van has wings. This really shouldn't be surprising considering the flash we saw of Folken and they are brothers, but even so, it moves the business out of the realm of Hitomi's head space. And since she hasn't seen Folken yet, it's quite a shock… and further complicates the who's who of her earlier vision. It's tough when you feel the urge to settle down with an angel?

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/u/Quiddity131

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Very excited for this rewatch of what is probably my favorite anime of all time. My history with Escaflowne goes all the way back to 2000 where I discovered it via the infamous FOX Kids airing. Escaflowne was many firsts for me; it was the first anime I ever watched in Japanese, and the first anime DVD I ever owned. It was my first exposure to the work of famed people like Shoji Kawamori, Yoko Kanno, Shinichiro Watanabe, Maaya Sakamoto, etc... It was also the first of many animes I ran fansites for back in the 2000's (escaflowneonline.com, which survived until 2008). There's no question in my eyes that I have a nostalgia bias, and yet when I try to think of a show that is clear and unquestionably better, I can't think of one.

This will be the first time I've rewatched the show in over 4 years, and while I'm a grizzled veteran who has seen this show at least 10 times, probably more, this will be the first time I'll be seeing the uncut/director's cut version with the added scenes, the first time I'll be hearing the new dub that Funimation did, and the first time I'll be seeing it on bluray.

Quid's Song of the Day (Part 1)

I've seen "Song of the Day" features in other rewatch threads, and there's no way an Escaflowne rewatch can happen without someone doing the same. I just wonder, as I write this post up the night before, if there are going to be other posters looking to do the same thing, lol. From the legendary, best anime composer of all time, Yoko Kanno (with around 10 songs from her then husband Hajime Mizoguchi too), it still may be my favorite anime soundtrack. Dare I say it, I like it even better than Cowboy Bebop's. Anyway, I'll be seeking to highlight songs that play a notable part within that day's episode, being sure to spread things out appropriately, as while there are some songs that are used numerous times, there are also many that are just used once and hence only have one episode they can go with! Which brings us to today's song, which is only used in this episode.

Empty the Pocket (Poketto wo kara ni shite) - One of many amazing things about Escaflowne are the collaborations with Yoko Kanno and Maaya Sakamoto; this is one of six songs on the soundtrack Sakamoto sings and they would reunite for many songs in later anime such as RahXephon and Wolf's Rain. Unfortunate that we don't get to hear any of that singing in the episode as just the instrumental portion is used, during the scene when Hitomi and Yukari walk home. For some reason I simply couldn't find the original studio version of this on Youtube anywhere but here is a really fun video to watch, a live performance, including Yoko Kanno playing the accordian.

Episode Thoughts

I'm going to take a different tact than what I usually do for rewatches (such as the current one for Iron Blooded Orphans) where I simply write out all my in the moment impressions as I watch the episode and instead take more of an overall look at things. This is for sure a very different type of first episode for a mecha anime. Instead of some teenage boy falling into a cockpit we have a school girl drama! Although that is kinda bound for the territory as Escaflowne is one of the rarest things you'll find in mecha anime, a female main character. The only other mecha show I have ever seen with a female main character is Gunbuster and its sequel (I have heard there are a couple of more out there). Along with the fantasy setting, it is something that really makes Escaflowne different and unique in comparison to most mecha shows out there. The nature of this first episode is built perfectly around this. I've longed for a Gundam show to try out having a female main character for years, and yet my fear is that if it ever happens, they'll just do it as a gimmick. That they'll pull, say a Star Wars and make her a big time Mary Sue, or someone who is for all intents and purposes acting like a male character and is just a female. That is not the case at all with Hitomi, who is a three dimensional character and behaves exactly like a 15 year old girl would. In looking things up, it was interesting to see that this is the only episode of the series that its creator, Shoji Kawamori wrote, although I'm sure he had a hand in guiding the overall storyline.

Beyond the unique structure of this first episode (and the show as a whole) the dragon fight is certainly another highlight of this episode and provides a lot of excitement. Surprisingly enough the show doesn't give us a mecha battle in the first episode (well kinda, we do get a brief glimpse of one in Hitomi's vision), but we do get this dragon fight instead, yet another thing that has got to be quite the rarity for a mecha show. Aura Battler Dunbine is the other big Sunrise mecha show but doesn't include anything like this to my recollection. Game of Thrones made us wait many years for a dragon battle. Escaflowne gives it to us in the first episode!

I was surprised to see that there weren't actually any new scenes in this episode, despite it being the enhanced version. Perhaps they don't start up until later episodes? Also, I gotta say, Hitomi's getting a lot of action in the ending credits! Kissing both Amano and this other blonde guy who shall rename nameless for now.

The Dub

My first impressions for Hitomi's new English voice, Caitlin Glass is that her voice is too deep. Granted, so was Kelly Sheridan in the original dub, in comparison to Maaya Sakamoto. Maaya Sakmoto is pretty much perfection as a seiyuu, so to be fair, whoever they had voice her would be a disappointment. What bugs me all the more about this dub is how many names are mispronounced. Amano, Kanzaki, Yukari, all are mispronounced. Its driving me crazy. On the other hand, Yukari's voice is perfectly fine. Escaflowne Spoilers Amano's is decent. I don't care for Van's either. This is kinda crazy for me to say, and wasn't really my intent going in, but I'm strongly considering going back to the subbed version with episode 2. I'm usually very supportive of dubs, I'm not saying its necessary bad, but I'm just so used to the original voices and so biased towards them that I am strongly thinking of going back. Especially with this being my first time watching the show in many years.

The Disaster that was FOXcaflowne

As if doing the music feature isn't enough, I figured I'd also speak to how Escaflowne fared when it aired on FOX Kids in 2000. A nice way to look back... and hang our heads in shame at what a disaster it was. If only this show got acquired by Cartoon Network instead. Well, the most notable thing about how FOX handled the first episode of Escaflowne is... they didn't even air it! Absolutely brutal. One of the great things about this show? A mecha show with a female main character? Nah, that doesn't fly. Out went the entire thing. And yet, crazily enough, they later went and spliced in parts of the first episode into later episodes as flashbacks, which forced them to cut even more stuff so they'd have the space for it. American anime fans these days are so spoiled; this is what we had to deal with when I was really getting into anime...

Quid's Song of the Day (Part 2)

Escaflowne has so many great songs, I can't really hold myself to one per day (too many will be left out). That would also force me to leave out several great songs on the soundtrack that aren't used in the show but would still be of value to highlight at some point. Anyway, my second song of the day is also a song exclusive to this episode:

I Recommend Instincts Played near the start of the episode when we first meet Hitomi on the track field, this song also has its vocals stripped out in the episode. This one's performed by a singer named Julia Wilson who I don't think I've come across collaborating with Kanno again on any other songs.

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/u/No_Rex

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Rewatcher (kind of …)

  • All wishes are granted? I sure hope that at least 1 person wished for logic to be abolished, otherwise contradictory wishes are going to be a pain.
  • Plenty of people wished for power and glory it seems.
  • Celena sees Allen again (even though he is in his guymelef); I guess that was her greatest wish.
  • Hitomi wishes for Van, so her wish is granted, too.

The episode wraps up the story, yet I can’t help but feel that the real climax of the series was episode 24, not this. Episode 25 and 26 just present a fitting conclusion to the decisive choices of episode 24. It is daring to show an epilogue, when they could have ended at Van reaching Hitomi. That would have avoided questions in favor of an all-around upbeat end. Instead, they lay open that, even after Zaibach is no more, Hitomi still has to make a choice between Gaea and Earth. She chooses Earth, wish moves all of Gaea a good bit into the realm of fantasy. You could even argue that the story is internal to Hitomi Meta-Spoiler.

Regarding the Absolute Fortune Zone, I guess there are two possible scenarios to deal with conflicting wishes. Either, the stronger wish wins out. Hitomi is right at the center, so her wish prevails over those of all others. Alternatively, the machine simply cannot deal with contradictions. It fulfills no wishes. Then, what happens is actual fate, not something accomplished by wishes.

Overall discussion

When I started watching, I was anxious to learn how my perfect score of a long time ago would hold up. Even though I remembered almost nothing of the plot, I should have been more trusting in the taste of me 15+ years ago: our tastes still match.

I think Visions of Escaflowne does well on a variety of aspects. There are pretty visuals, great music and a well-developed storyline. Yet, I want to pick out two aspects I especially enjoyed.

Pacing

The first is the shows pacing. Someone mentioned that the show was planned to run longer and cut down to 26 episodes. If true, I recommend whoever made that decision! The pacing of the show is almost as perfect as it can get. Right from the get-go, the pot starts moving and there is never even a hint of filler. The fast pace avoids the oh-so-typical overindulgence in battle scenes and brooding characters that plague other series. Could you imagine the them adding another 10 episodes of fighting against unimportant Zaibach minions? Episodes more worth of dragged on love triangles?

The show sets up a goal (returning to Earth) and a threat (Zaibach) right at the start and then makes sure that the characters are never bogged down with unimportant side-plots. For me, the story-telling works fantastically.

Characters

The second highlight of the show, for me, are its characters. What a relief not to meet any idiot character. No comically evil antagonists that hog the spotlight with zero motivation. Note how all three main antagonists (Dilandau, Folken, and Dornkirk) receive a very well-rounded treatment. Their flaws are clearly shown, yet believable, given their back story.

On the heroes’ side, Hitomi easily makes the cut for best character. What a difference from bland MC-kuns or boring damsels in distress. The story is centered on her and she takes an active role in shaping her (and the world’s) fortune. Allen, despite his early appearance, also is a great character for me. They let a lot of darkness shine through for him in the middle part of the story, making him much more believable. The only character that suffers a bit is Van. He really needed to have more screen time together with Folken to elevate him above shonen standards.

Regarding the side characters, Merle shows how cat girls are done well and how comic relief characters are supposed to work in one go. She is funny, but not the sole butt of jokes, and her being a cat-girl actually shows in her actions, instead of being simple character model pandering. Dryden and Millerna are two more side-character I really fell in love with.

Thanks

Thanks to /u/Jazz_Dalek for organizing this great rewatch and to everyone who made comments. I had been looking forward to this for a while and I was not disappointed.

Rating

If I had seen Escaflowne for the first time, I would waver and potentially give this a 9/10 in the end. There are the slight problems with the plot that take a bit too much to ignore. Yet nostalgia is a thing and it easily is enough for me to retain my old rating: 10/10.

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/u/xHelaMonster

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PTW. Haven't watched it yet. I'll get back with my comments later this evening.

Love the episode title by the way. Operation Golden Rule of Love has got to be the most awesomely cheesy title of all time.

impressions in order

  • Cold open, right into action, nice.

  • That's a wild vision of the future. No wonder thay're scared.

  • He didn't exactly take her with him Eries. I get you blame Allen, but let's stick to facts.

  • Ya, Hitomi is a bro.

  • Don't worry, Isaac. I know my brother. He's a total tsundere. we have time.

  • Folken be like: Toldja so... cocky bastard.

  • You deserved that one too, Van, you jackass.

  • Who else gets a creepy voyeuristc vibe off of old Isaac Newton right about now.

  • The machine isn't at full power, but I think it can make the kokoro go doki doki.

  • Chain is such a great track.

  • She reminds me of my imouto... he reminds me of my senpai... but what about bro's before hoes?.. you know you're the only one for me, baby... now pucker up.

  • Probably the creepiest moment for Dornkirk, and he's a pretty creepy dude.

  • Ya, Van, you really done it this time.

I'm typing this up, and I'm heading out the door to see Gundam Narrative. My 6 yr old daughter is asking to go with me now...

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/u/laughtear

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First timer

We're over the halfway point and every episode raises something new about the world, but we haven't been given sufficient answers. It's getting frustrating to watch the introduction of yet another concept that everyone seems to accept. The sequence at the beginning of the episode was not spoken of again. No one inquired what happened to them, no one seemed to find it odd that they both died and came back to life. Neither has Hitomi has not confided in anyone about how fearful and real her visions feel - she just seemed to move on after an episode.

It's strange to see these characters open up to each other, but the significant, life-altering details are never mentioned. For instance, Van is facing the psychological trauma of what's happened previously but keeps pushing forward recklessly - something he would have done at the beginning of the show. Hitomi is the only person who seems to want to talk to him about it, but Allen stops her. It's not simple fear he's feeling - he is now tied to Escaflowne. He knows that if he makes one mistake, the cost of healing may be too much, and he's already been through that trauma. But I have a feeling he really will get through this alone - it's what everyone else has been doing so far.

This comment has been on the negative side for once, but as always, there were things I did enjoy, one of which surprised even myself.

Extra thoughts:

  • Young Allen is far cuter than current Allen. To think he was an arrogant boy who had never been formally trained in swordsmanship.

  • The conversation between Millerna, Hitomi and after a while, Merle was hilarious. This is genuinely the first time I've liked Merle's snark; this was too good not to laugh at. I don't want Hitomi's feelings to get even more complicated, but she hasn't thought about Amano in a while.

  • I don't know who these girls are or where they've come from (well, from Folken I suppose), but they are gorgeous.

  • Merle saving Van is the bravest thing I've seen in this show. If we use this image as a reference to how big the Guymelef's are, a tiny little catgirl stood up to two giants and won.

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/u/Shimmering-Sky

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Short post today, was suuuuper busy.

First-timer, subbed

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/u/JustAnswerAQuestion

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Today on Learning with Uncle Isaac:

"To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction" -- Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica 1687.

It was fun watching this episode after all the first timers were pointing out how OP the twins were and it was ruining the show.

It was also fun to blame every single thing in the episode, which would normally be chalked up to plot convenience, on the now-chaotic and randomized luck. Hitomi's shoelace breaks, leading to her capture, and then the wagon breaks, injuring Naria and delaying their arrival at the port.

Of Course Allen got to Hitomi first.

"Your good luck rebounded as bad luck, sunk my castle, and killed my cats. How is that a success, you ass?" -- Folken, probably.

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/u/redshirtengineer

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First timer

That's...it? That's it? OMG how 90s.

This episode felt incredibly rushed. But it was all good stuff. I liked the Hot Allen/Von fight and the resolution of Hot Allen and his sister (even if I didn't like the Dilandau aspect of it).

Overall thoughts: I liked it, kind of even loved it. I'll miss the OP. BTW I held off commenting on this not to jinx it, but a happy ending was pretty much mandatory after that OP. I haven't seen that many shoujo romances so maybe they're all like this, but that last part where she just swoons up the stairs guided by the angels of her better nature is precious (in a good way) and goes so well with the song.

I guess "shoujo" is why she went home but .. meh.

Anyway, final thoughts - the first part of the series felt like one of those old-fashioned stories people might tell around a campfire, "and then this happened" kind of thing, not really planned, just kind of rambling on, and I loved that. The story had just the right amount of wandering about for me and felt very organic. Then about the time the cat girls showed up (maybe a little before) it started feeling a little over plotted and rushed. I wonder what the 39 episode version would have been like.

As a production I liked it very much, can't say enough about the OST and I like the design aesthetic. Very glad to have finally seen this classic anime.

Thanks to /u/Jazz_Dalek for hosting and thanks to all the commenters! You rewatchers (and skillful guessing newbies) were very kind to us first timers.

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first timer

shoulder lasers look cool af

moon on the right

wonder if these guys know that allen ain't an asturian knight anymore

lame excuse - BYE

sour shit ain't my jam either

oh shit dude - van trying to share some of his feelings?

ahh man, he fucked it - he didn't come with that intent to kill

not gonna lie, that cemetery is certainly is on some prime fucking real estate

changing fate can only happen when you say you're gonna change fate a whole bunch

damn this marble on hard surface sound is dope

why does she miss amano senpai more than her own fucking mom lmao

beta van vs chad allen

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/u/Jazz_Dalek

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Hey everyone, quick reminder:

Tomorrow will be the final episode of The Vision of Escaflowne and we will be using that thread for any comments about the episode itself along with any discussion posts regarding the series as a whole.

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up incase they needed time to prep or were expecting a separate post for the retrospective.

Thanks to everyone who made it this far, you guys rock!

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First Timer - Subbed

Ep 9 thoughts since I missed posting yesterday:

  • It annoyed me that Millernas' reason for leaving her country was primarily her love for Allen. Escaflowne Spoiler

  • I'm sorry but as beautiful as the angel wings are, little Van flying off into the sky made me think of Birdman

  • Nice to have some backstory to Van's parents although it was sad. So Van would be half Draconian and the mother is lost for now. There is a chance for her to come back I hope. I'm waiting for more history on Draconians since Atlantis came up too and the bad guys have something to do with Atlantis too

Ep 10 thoughts:

  • So Fried is surprisingly full of Buddhist monks. Prince Chid is a cute little boy though

  • Zongi, the Doppelganger reminds me of a mix between Gollum and the species from Avatar. Also this creeps out Dilandau too. Makes you wonder whats so bad that it disgusts Dilandau of all people

  • Millerna tries to make a move on Allen Escaflowne Spoilers

  • Hitomi tries to train Van on seeing the future on his request. Her description for Merle was on point there lol. Hitomi, I wonder if anybody can do it after some practice

  • Of course it works for Van in an actual battle. Probably because this power comes thanks to the energist I'm thinking. I wonder if Hitomi would be accurate without the pendant

  • Avatar dude has successfully caused chaos. Lets see how our MC's handle this now

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/u/ScrewySqrl

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Rewatcher

Just a remider to everyone: this show is in my personal all-time top 10 shows in over 40 years of watching anime..

Allen seems to be showing both the good and bad sides of a chivalric knight.

and Van is a standard Hot Blooded shonen hero, who is just in over his head right now.

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/u/TheDampGod

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A music box with a secret compartment, what is this place, the mansion from Resident Evil?

Sometimes you need to see a harem MC outside of the lead role to see how dangerous they can be. Allen is quite the charmer, whether he likes it or not. Though I wasn't expecting him to be the Prince's father, that's going to cause problems with the incoming attack.

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First-Timer, Dub

I don't know what I expected when I started watching this show, but it was certainly not evil empires weaponizing love triangles. I'm both disturbed and impressed.

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/u/Knebulos

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I realy adore Allen, just so much.

The whole chivalros pretty boy knight to the rescue thing is so indungent, it makes this show such a joy to watch IMO.

I love his men too, they are rowdy but not thretaning. they are just so much fun to watch.

The "Destiny Prognostication engine" is such a cool word, I like its bladerunner-y design too.

I get why Von is so impatient but he is also kindof a dumbass. Actualy speakig of dumbassery that realy was not the time for a duel as cool as it was.

I like that dispite not being able to pilot a Gymaleth, Hitomi isn't totaly passive in battle we saw her acting as a spotter in episode 2 and here we see her powers developing.

I am curios to see whats up with the badies 2 voices. I didnt get far enough to see what was up wihth that last time.

As for the diferences in dubs: its just like minor phrasing stuff again, i do like that Alan dosen't call her a little girl in the new dub, its small but it feels more respectfull.

I think I like Allens old voice more, same goes for his men I like the sillier voices. Von's new voice channels his understandable rage better.

I think I will be watching the 2001 dub first from now on, the old school charm wins out.

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/u/goukaryuu

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> Ooh the text is green now. …I keep commenting on the various colors, but the different tarot cards are interesting too. I have zero idea what any of the tarot cards mean though so I can’t tell what any of them mean in tandem with the episode they’re used for. Tarot cards are really interesting and have a lot of symbolism to them. The Major Arcana are what we are seeing here, there are 22 of them. There are also Minor Arcana that are divided into four suites (like regular playing cards) wands/staves, cups, swords, and pentacles. A lot of anime loves to use the cards and especially make cards based on their characters, which can add or emphasize symbolism about them. [Here is the official Gundam Wing tarot cards.](http://ryen.net/tarot/gundamwing/) [Though the most famous example is the X/1999 tarot.](http://ryen.net/tarot/x/) It is also fun to discuss what characters would represent certain cards too. EDIT: To add to this I found this meaning for today's card: Justice is a Major Arcana Tarot card, numbered either VIII or XI, depending on the deck. This card is used in game playing as well as in divination. Depiction: The figure in the Justice card holds two objects: a scale in one hand as a symbol of balance and a sword in the other to exemplify the preservation of that equilibrium even by means of force. Meaning: The Justice card indicates that the fairest decision will be made. Justice is the sword that cuts through a situation, and will not be swayed by outer beauty when deciding what is fair and just. Upright card (keywords): Fairness, Justice, Cause and effect, Balance and equilibrium, Responsibility Reversed card (keywords): Lack of accountability, Unfair treatment, Dishonesty, Legal flaws, Imbalance Element: Air Ruling planet: Venus
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/u/htisme91

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First-timer who finished the series a couple weeks ago before knowing that there was a rewatch.

I felt like Escaflowne really picked up steam around the hidden valley and Atlantis parts, but once they got back, it was losing steam quicker than it gained. The fate alteration and Allen, and then the way Folken switched, it all felt awkward.

But this finale, the final scene where Van sends Hitomi off, is fantastic. One of the most beautiful scenes in anime. It feels like such a payoff for the show, yet simultaneously makes me feel sad, because Van and Hitomi don't get the happy ending that everyone else seemingly got.

It's a good show. I'd probably give it an 8/10. I loved the premise, and the characters were good, and the visuals and soundtrack were just fantastic. I just felt like the tail end was rushed a bit, and that if it were, say a 39 episode anime, we could have gotten things to play out a little more and make the series feel more full.

And again, god I love that ending scene. From the music to the visuals, it just is so emotional and beautiful and makes the whole show.

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/u/SIRTreehugger

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Middle of the episode. Meh all these elites dying and I'm not a fan or mechs as it is.

End of episode. HOLY SHIT Balgus Whyyyyyy you were too badass too die this soon.... No he had to die or else the journey would be too easy. I hope we get more unconventional fights like mech vs animal or human. Don't need it every episode, but it will be a nice change of pace. I have high hopes that the cat girl becomes badass. It takes me a while to learn names .

Though I do like the look of the mech and when he put the stone inside the jelly like heart and it begins beating.

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/u/GamerGarm

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Well... boy was I glad to find out about this Re: Watch.

Escaflowne is one of my favorite anime of all time. I haven't watch it in years so this first episode fell brand new to me.

I loved the look of Van with the full kitted armor. And the CGI for the dragon was surprisingly tasteful for an anime before 2000.

I think what makes this anime special is the combination of an isekai shoujo heroine in Hitomi, and a shonen fantasy mecha hero in Van.

Hitomi is one of my favorite female characters because I find her personality so believable.

I forgot how Amano-senpai looks exactly like a character we will meet very soon. Was this foreshadowing or just a quirk of the art style? Tune in tomorrow to find out!

I am super exited for this rewatch. I hope everyone has a great time with this series!

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/u/1LucKyLuke

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The animation sequence of Escaflowne's mechanisms was amazing. So much detail.
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/u/lC3

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I choked up at the ending for a little while. I remember the first time I watched this, I was so pissed that Van and Hitomi don't really end up together, that she just gets spirited away and 'will always remember him'. Huge letdown. I mean, she had always wanted to go back home while she was on Gaea, but she came to care for its people, and seemingly became able to travel back and forth. Ultimate long distance relationship?

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/u/SgtExo

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> And she's shocked to learn that Allen and Van find the fight enjoyable—which, well, yes, it does involve quite a bit of life-taking, but it also uniquely focuses the mind, lest you get a sword through it. It's still not a world that she understands. While I do it as a recreational martial art, and not in a life or death environment, being on the wining side of a sword fight is quite exhilarating. Now doing it in giant steam punk mechs must be even more so. Add in the fact that they surely have their brains being pumped full of adrenaline, I am not surprised that someone would enjoy it, and it is funny that it has taken this long for Hitomi to realize it.
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/u/Pixelsaber

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> Today, on ["ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU ISAMU"](https://i.imgur.com/xxSVDix.jpg): I laughed way too hard at this.
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/u/Mami-kouga

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First timer:

This is my first comment on this rewatch and I'm a bit further ahead from this episode because this anime is annoyingly addictive for something so old, but the rewatch was what convinced me to finally watch it so I wanted to give my thoughts!

One of the first scenes is Hitomi swooning. I don't particularly like how her crush on Allen is mainly due to her feelings for Amano, but damn if I can blame her when he's so annoyingly smooth and lol at her hitting her head, I repeated that scene twice.

Are passive aggressive comments just a thing in this country? First Allen and his subtle patronizing comments, then this princess and her snide remarks and even her father with his insincere round about ways. Merle may be rude as well, but at least she makes no pretense about it.

Meanwhile Van goes to confront his brother, who seems to want him to join him. Of course Van isn't going to listen to him, especially because the people he's working for razed his home not to mention the sneak attack this episode even if that was more Dilandu's fault than his. Hitomi to the rescue though, she didn't put that track and field experience to waste, and she seems to be getting better with her visions, that's good at least. Her and Van have this weird sort of "I'll save you" vibe going on with them which is pretty good for relationship building 👌😉, looking forward to seeing how it would grow.

Also regarding the episode's final scene, I mentioned it before that I didn't like how insincere the king is, and I definitely don't. Putting Van at risk to 'scope merchandise', treating Allen's warning as a joke even though he's obviously aware that shady shit is going on, I'm going to have a mighty fine laugh when all of this blows up in his face

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/u/Sharebear42019

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Would I like this show if I generally don’t prefer mech shows? I really loved code geass despite there being lots of mechs (even kinda got into those certain ones) but shows like gundam and even neon genisis I didn’t like. This show seems more interesting though like code geass

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/u/Nuhvok01

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I'm so happy this show is getting a rewatch; it was one of the first anime i ever saw.

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/u/browncoat_girl

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Are we actually doing a rewatch of Escaflowne? Because I love Escaflowne.

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/u/ClawfootQueen

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The bath scene is my favorite part. Everyone is watching the extended cuts right?

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/u/scmasaru

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I’ve been wondering that those bird cages don’t come with toilets

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/u/MetaThPr4h

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Hi! As it happens with me most of the time, I didn't really comment on the daily posts or even really followed the pace of the rewatch since I binged it pretty hard once I reached the halfway point, but I just wanted to say thanks because you gave me the motivation to try out the series, which ended up being a pretty enjoyable watch.

While I wasn't as hooked as I wanted to the story at some points, the interesting worldbuilding and pretty good characters made it fun enough, and the final arc was actually very nice honestly, 7/10 from my part.

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/u/DragonPup

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Such a simpler time when a truck wasn't necessary to get to the other world.

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/u/Palloc

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> The Disaster that was FOXcaflowne I just noticed this rewatch was a thing, so I'm just visiting, but this was a guilty pleasure. The goofy 90s dub repeating a word over and over theme and everything. Looking back at it, it was a shitshow and as a kid, it was my first realization that subs and dubs were different. Hearing Yakusoku wa Iranai instead of ES-CA-FLOW-NE to weird techno music was an eye opener as it was the first DVD of an anime series I ever got. Once my kid brain got over the initial shock of the changes, I was quite pleased and kinda felt more grown up, cause even as a kid, I was a weeb. But still, glad that it was my first DVD series. Have fun watching, uh, girls and fantasy mecha. I'm going back to my Gundam rewatches where I live.
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/u/AlienOvermind

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> Well that was a disappointment. > > I really don't see why Hitomi left or that there was any reason for it at all except for the sake of a bittersweet ending. I know that feeling. The main reason I didn't join this rewatch was because I remember too well how mad I was at this ending when I watched this show for the first time.
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/u/liatris4405

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Rewatch

wow. Everyone, you see nostalgic anime.

In Episode 2, I remember being surprised by mechanical animation and Epic music.

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/u/Saeedlfc

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Is it too late to catch up with this? 😭

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/u/warpticon

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My fellow non-haphazard-10-giver and Monster-10-rater. ( I gave Escaflowne a 9, Monster and LOGH are my 10s) I had no intention of watching Escaflowne anytime soon but now I have to.
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/u/razorlikeblue

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This anime has 2 dubs,one by Bandai/ocean and another more recent 2016 one by funimation that got released by funimation.

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