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/u/Adam_Drivers_Ass

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Great to see someone watching this series for the first time! You really hit Azuki/Moritaka's relationship on the head, though I don't want to say anything else to avoid spoilers. I always felt that it was the weakest part of the series, and you seem to already have a good understanding of why that is. However, I will say that they do have some great moments, and there's a lot to look forward to!
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/u/Atario

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/u/No_Rex

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Season 3 - Episode 15

Everyone is hard at work to overtake CROW. I expected as much, but it was plenty of fun seeing all the discussion of story arcs and new characters. These more “technical” parts of Bakuman have always been my favorites.

Kaya helping them once more and not getting the recognition she deserves. The trick seemed clever though. Not sure it will be enough though. Bakuman being a shonen and Ashirogi having the longstanding goal to overtake CROW says yes. My heart says I want to see CROW end as planned on a high, so no. And my mind says: Whenever this happened before, Bakuman picked a third alternative.

As a side note: We saw half a second of the assistants today. They seem to have completely dropped out of the story. So did Miho, even though I had high hopes on seeing more of her VA work.

PS: Could you post the threads an hour earlier maybe? Schedule is not fitting for me in the next week.

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/u/htisme91

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First-timer:

Everyone else is angry, and while this episode made me feel uncomfortable at times, I kind of liked it.

First I totally get Saiko's position because I am guilty of overworking myself because I'm too into my professional goals myself.

But I actually think it's interesting that he wants to keep going, and I feel like the message of the episode gets mis-interpreted because we generally believe the Japanese have a toxic working culture.

Saiko knows full well what happened to his uncle, and he wants to keep going. He wants to, because he wants to accomplish his dream. Like his uncle said, being a mangaka is being a gambler. Like his uncle, he is taking the ultimate risk on himself for his dream.

And I feel like that's kind of the overall message we've seen in the show, and not glorifying the toxic culture of manga production. Taking risks for what you believe in. Saiko would rather take that chance on himself than live safe, because this gives his life actual meaning, and I get why those closest to him keep supporting it despite the health risks. The opposite would go against what this show's generally been about.

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  1. Yes. See above. It fits the theme of this show and it gives him meaning. Without manga, Saiko would feel empty in life.

  2. Yes. I think this whole visit was the best thing her character has done in this series. She loves him because of his drive and love of manga. He's doing this both for his love of manga and his love for her. If Saiko wasn't like this, he wouldn't be the man she cares about so much. These goals are also the foundation of their relationship, and he would be heartbroken if she didn't support him, in numerous ways, which probably wouldn't be good for his recovery either.

  3. I'll say the editor-in-chief, only because he had a very good plan for dealing with this and was the most realistic and emotionally level-headed of the bunch.

  4. Yes. See above. Manga gave his life meaning and his art is what drew Azuki to him, and is the medium for the goals to achieve the relationship they want. If he didn't spurn her, he'd be damaging the relationship they do have. It's a lose-lose in a way, but it turned out not to be with Azuki ultimately supporting him.

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/u/TheSuperthingymabob

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Didn't make the discussion thread yesterday because I disconnected from the internet to focus on studying for my exam today. (I think I said the wrong day the day before) The level to which it worked is debatable.

Today on Bakuman: Ashirogi Mutou writes DEFINITELY NOT JUST DEATH NOTE. DON'T OVERTHINK IT THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM DEATH NOTE.

I didn't notice til today that they actually have Hikaru no Go and Death Note right next to Ashirogi's manga. Cmon guys, we get it, you're established mangaka.

Best manga of all time is probably some series I haven't read. I struggle to choose my favourite, choosing the best of all time would be impossible. Shoutouts to One Piece, Vagabond and Vinland Saga tho. JoJo is a personal favourite but I'm pretty sure I could never call it the best lol. Oh, and Dragon Ball, Slam Dunk and E21 are pretty great too, I swear it's impossible because I like way too much stuff. Different series have different strengths.

The chief editor's cool. You can kinda tell that he's always supposed to have been a sympathetic character, even when he was an obstacle for the main characters.

The zombie manga seems intriguing. Ashirogi's manga seems like it's literally death note which means it could be interesting, as long as it's the good half of death note.

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/u/flybypost

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Did you expect Crow to end this way? Will Saiko and Shujin be able to beat Niizuma with their next series?

No, I though they'd finally find a way to beat him. They are the MCs after all. But I love the ending of this arc (is it an arc, the CROW arc?) even more for what it did with Niizuma. Initially, when we saw him for the first time, I really thought Niizuma was just a little manga obsessed shit but he quickly became one of my favourite side characters.

That started when he took the first criticism to heart and adapted to working better with an editor. Instead of being stubborn he really thought about it and saw that he was in the wrong and changed, that was really great to see from him. He also generally showed up as the most reasonable character (despite being the one with the oddest behaviour, it took me a while tor realise that putting the feather thingies into his collar was him mimicking the MC of CROW and not just a random oddity from him). He's also the nexus of this group's rivalries, friendships, and assistants beyond just being a good rival everybody could use a measuring stick.

I love that he personally went to everybody to thank them for their competition/rivalry/friendship once he was told that they'd been writing him messages in the authors' section. That's valuable time that he could have use to draw more. This episode was special for how it showed/treated Niizuma and I love it, really well done.

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/u/thegirlisnuts

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> The overworking was dealt with rather quickly; usually the show gives one or two episodes of foreshadowing. But it has been foreshadowed before. Mashiro's been shown to get dizzy spells even way back when Hattori was still their editor. Plus the fact that his uncle (who he's been trying to emulate) seems to have died from exhaustion, Mashiro's collapse has been telegraphed since season 1. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised it took this long before the show addressed the negative consequences of Mashiro's unhealthy work regimen. It's like the show forgot about and then suddenly remembered that Mashiro's health was a plot point they set up before. I'm guessing they wanted TRAP to do well before they threw in this new wrench in the dynamic.
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/u/ShaadowLord

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I just want to take the opportunity to say that this ending is great, and fuck the previous one. Holy shit. Honestly don't know who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to put that on Bakuman instead of Love Live or something but it was a terrible idea.

Also, kind of sad to see that Eiji has to resort to something like this to end his manga, and even sadder to think that this is probably accurate to what happens with a bunch of mangakas out there. Shame they're not allowed to just end their series when they want to.

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/u/zechamp

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This episode honestly made me really angry when I first watched it, I think the working culture in Japan is extremely toxic and I do not like how this series glorifies it at all.

When the lad is hospitalised because of drawing manga, and his mom is crying because she wants her son to be healthy and OK, I don't think it's acceptable at all for his friends to enable him to endanger himself further, especially with how the series has a core plot point of a relative mangaka working himself to death.

This arc left a pretty sour taste in my mouth, and hampered my enjoyment of the series a bit as I just cannot agree with the core message being sent here.

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/u/Mojert

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Rewatcher

Hi everyone !

I didn't have time to prepare screenshots today unfortunately. But that won't stop me from answering the questions !

1) Is Saiko and Shujin’s workplace compartmentalization a good idea? Why or why not? How might they change it?

They're working next to each other so there isn't much of a compartmentalisation of the workplace if you'd ask me. What strikes me more is how Saiko wants their work (not the workplace) to be separated. Having informed second opinions is always great ! That could help Shujin writes better stories and names. And Shujin helping Saiko at the end with the manuscript was surely helpful for Saiko. But I don't remember how this separation of the work evolve later on in the series so I'm interested in seeing how it will play out.

2) Are Kaya and Shujin going to start dating, or is Shujin going to reject her to pursue manga?

It's not really something I can talk about, can I ?

3) What do you think of the idea behind their first final draft?

Since the jump is more about manga that could go on nearly forever, their draft is focused towards the wrong publisher. That kind of clash is what brought us the second part of Death Note... Maybe season 2?

Man I'm thrilled to see the next episode, it introduces one of my favourite characters !

See you tomorrow !

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/u/MrAKSama420

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Bit late, but I’ll add my comment here anyways. First of all, I think this was a great episode which nailed the premise and initial motivations of the characters.

When I first read it, what sold me was the unique setting of the manga business/world and the dynamic art. Looking at the first episode now, I can see that it’s kept most of the same feel, although the art seems a teensy bit bland.

Another thing that sold me was that proposal at the end. Although I know that it’s extremely unrealistic, I’m just a sucker for that sort of thing. It feels like a very romanticized view of love, where they work towards their dreams and marry each other when they fulfill it. It also helps that I know what’s going to happen.

And Saiko’s monologue towards the start of the episode is too relatable. Really sells that feeling of a normal high schooler. Excited to see how he changes throughout the series.

Really hyped for this rewatch, since it’s the first rewatch I’ve done with other people, and this is my most favorite shonen series, going above Death Note, which was created by the same people. I might not be able to comment for every episode, but excited to do this with you guys!

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/u/Herovan

Total Karma:5 Attendancy:2

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Hello again.

I was the guy who commented 2 days ago about binging Bakuman up to S2 ep 14 in just 2 days. Well after 2 more days I have fully finished Bakuman and it has become one of my favourite anime! It was fantastic!

That's all I wanted to say and I hope you don't mind but I felt like it's my duty to share this with you guys, especially after your nice words last time. I even made a pretty long post about it. That's how much I loved it.

Thank you everybody and enjoy watching Bakuman!

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/u/Johnoliverguy

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Manga Reader

Woo, best girl Aoki has finally been introduced, one thing i don't like however is how the anime changed her hair from white (as seen on the volume 9 cover) to brown.

While I have been noticing the anime removing bits here and there, that song that KOOGY sang wasn't in the manga in any form, and I actually quite liked the song. So much that I might have to see if I can find it somewhere on Youtube.

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/u/IISuperSlothII

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>While I did think the episode was good in general, the relationship between Moritaka and Azuki is kinda weird. I get that this is a first episode setting up the premise and I understand his motivation but proposing after barely talking seems like a bit of a stretch. Get to know each ffs. Yeah the show gets a lot better when it sticks that in the background long enough you sort of forget its a key part of the initial premise. It's even more frustrating because they interact in ways that would be brilliant to set up their relationship but instead they choose to go the 'well this makes no fucking sense' route. Honestly Bakuman is a 9/10 for me, but that whole aspect of the show is the shows biggest negative, and the fact it opens on it really doesn't do it any favours.
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/u/KazCo

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This was an ok first episode but then I got hooked at the end. That promise to marry each other if they both meet their goals is crazy and it makes me want to keep watching. I guess I’ll only answer one question as I don’t have much time. I think that their relationship is interesting to say the least. Healthy? Eh, I wouldn’t say it’s unhealthy but there are signs that make me question it. Although they are an interesting pair and I can’t wait to see how they handle each other from here.

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/u/acallis1

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This is actually the first time I've watched this, but when I saw our wad the same folks as death note I was intrigued.

Let me start by saying I think this show is hilarious. The scene at the doorbell was so funny I almost woke up my wife. I rewatched this scene about 5 times.

Speaking of that scene I like to think it's possible to keep a promise like that, but I don't think the relationship will work. Relationships steer gated when you ate actually seeing each other and when you take that aspect out of it it only gets harder. That's not to say that you can't have meaning filled relationships and successful marriages without kissing sexual contact, look at the bates kids. Side note - if he doesn't actually team up with takagi then he would have lied to her on the same day as asking her to marry him... that isn't good.

I think that his world view is a bit skewed, he's 14 (?) and looks at everything in black and white. It's either be a successful manga artist or nor be a manga artist. He even mentions the statistics of being successful early in the episode, which tells me he's looked into this before. I think this will change.

I'm not sure they will ever be friends. Takagi seems very difficult to be friends with. He snooped Moritaka's stuff and used it to coerce him into partnering with him. None of that builds healthy friendships.

Idk... I'm excited to be a part of this and looking forward to watching this series!

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/u/Cryzzalis

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Oh crap, this is a thing that's going on? I guess I'll miss out for now but when I get home from work I'll start participating.

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/u/yuhef2bmed

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I didn't know this was going on but I'm definitely gonna catch up!

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/u/Zerokxis

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ive watched this series about 3 times, and read the manga 3 times, im not part of your rewatch group, but just saying, its goddam good if ive done this 3 times for both. ill eventually succumb to a 4th re-read/re-watch, but this season has me packed.

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/u/ConanKid

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First time watcher however I own the entire manga and have read it around 10 times.

I think it is a pretty good first episode and it was exciting to hear all of the characters voices. The animation is pretty good(Although it is not as good as obata's amazing art). I agree with u/TheSuperthingymabob opinion on the relationship. IMO it is the worst and most unrealistic part of the series. One small problem i had with it was the hulu translation had Shonen Jump as Shonen Jack?!?!? Very strange. I look forwards to continuing the rewatch

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/u/brr-its-cold

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I'm so glad I got to read and experience this as it came out.

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/u/LettuceBowler

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Every time I read Bakuman I have to remind myself that it's not Bakugan.

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/u/NarutoShadowClone

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I love this show

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/u/woutSo

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This is the final season right? I didn't join on the rewatch but I opened up some of those EDs and OPs and man was it a treat. I vividly remember watching this series back to back with no breaks.

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